Program “Culture 2000” of the European Comission
Project “Multimedial History of Hungary and Finland on CD-ROM”

3. Meeting on 15./16.06.2001
at the Department of Multimedia of Jyväskylän Yliopisto


Participants:
Universität Hamburg: PD Dr. Holger Fischer
Universität Rostock: Prof. Dr. Gyula Pápay
Jyväskylän Yliopisto: Prof. Dr. Anssi Halmesvirta, Ilkka Kuukka, Prof. Dr. Heikki Rantatupa
Université de la Sorbonne Nouvelle (Paris III): Dr. Paul Gradvohl
Eötvös Loránd Tudománegyetem Budapest: Dr. László Zentai

Absent because of other obligations:
Université de la Sorbonne Nouvelle (Paris III): Prof. Dr. Xavier Richet
Collegium Hungaricum - Haus Ungarn Berlin: Prof. Dr. András Masát

1. Welcome

Mr. Halmesvirta and Mr. Kuukka welcome the members of the project “Multimedial History of Hungary and Finland on CD-ROM” and introduce their colleagues from Jyväskylä. Mr. Fischer expresses his gratitude about the preparatory measures, that lead to the expectation of a successful meeting. After that Mr. Gradvohl introduced himself, who couldn’t take part at the former meetings.

2. Developments since the meeting in Budapest from 26./27.4.2001

Four developments mainly took place since the meeting of Budapest:
a) At the 19th/20th of May 2001, Mr. Gradvohl visited Hamburg and was briefed by Mr. Fischer about the details in connection with the project’s organisation and the structural composition of the CD-ROM, developed in Hamburg and Budapest. Mr. Gradvohl will write the chapters about Hungary’s history in the Interwar-period and after 1989.
b) On 11th of June 2001, the official alteration of the contract, which includes extension of the project’s duration until 31th december 2001, arrived. All members receive a copy of the document.
c) According to decision 2/13, an order was given to the Fraunhofer-Institute for Graphic Data Processing in Rostock and to Mr. Timo Sirviö in Jyväskylä to develop a design of the multimedial design, based upon the structural composition, decided in Budapest. Because of the delayed completion of both design outlines, it was only partially possible to complete the prototypical chapter.
d) The hungarian colleagues from the department of cartography have completed a sample of the basic maps and sent it to all members of the project. These maps are to be discussed at a later time at the meeting

3. Presentation of both design outlines

It was planed for both design outlines to be completed until the end of May, so that the prototypical chapter (History of Hungary and Finland from 1945 to 1956) could be worked into both designs. Based on this, a fair comparison and an objective decision would have taken place. Because of the already mentioned delayed completion of the design outlines, the integration of the prototypical chapter was only possible into the the Fraunhofer-Institute>s design outline - and even here only partial.

a) Design outline of Timo Sirviö
First, Timo Sirviö presents his outline. The design basically assumes the development of a continous horizontal chronology. Parallel to this, four additional chronological strings exist, which treat Finland’s political, cultural, social and economic history, and four corresponding chronologies about hungarian history. The links are built into the 1 + 4 + 4 strings as small icons of text and multimedia at the chronological correct points. During the discussion, the following topics were discussed and critizised:

b) Design outline, developed by the Fraunhofer-Institute for Graphical Data Processing Rostock Mr. Pápay presents the outline from Rostock by comparing it to the various levels/pages from the structural compostion developed in Budapest. It is clear that the design is strongly oriented towards the structural measures. During the discussion, the following topics were discussed and critizised:

c) Discussion about both design outlines
The following intensive and in many areas controversal discussion about both outlines and the corresponding structural conceptions shows the following:

Based on this discussion, Timo Sirviö presents a modified outline of his design (compare to enclosure 1). After further discussion, the following decisions are agreed to by all:

Decision 3/1:
The design outline from the Fraunhofer-Institute for Graphical Data Processing Rostock is accepted. Mr. Pápay is asked to inform the institute about the faults and shortcomings, that have become appearent during the discussions, so that proper modifications can be made.

Decision 3/2:
In the introductionary chapters of each period, the comparative aspects should be weighted more heavily. This should be done using Timo Sirviö’s modified design as a model.

Decision 3/3: Timo Sirviö is asked to place his modified design at disposal, for payment of a fee. Decision 3/4:
The comparative aspects in the texts of a period / chapter are to be connected directly to the comparatice introductionary chapter (compare to enclosure 2).

4. Maps

Mr. Zentai presents some of the planed maps, that were completed meanwhile in Budapest. Based on the various alternatives, it is decided which clipings and which scales are chosen:

Mr. Zentai points out, that the contentual and compositional design of the maps is not developed by him and his colleagues, but by the authors of the individual periods, who are to speak up about their ideas and designs regarding the maps.

5. Copyright and fees

Basically, the discussion of Budapest was repeated. Regarding the high fees that are charged in Finland by the museums and archives for copies of photos and after that, additionally for the adoption into the CD-ROM, caution is advised regarding the gathering of such material. Probably, already published photos in older publications should be taken, where clearly no copyright oriented problems exist. The financial aspect is even more true about movieclips.

6. Various

At the conclusion, various minor details are discussed, which nonetheless are of great pratical importance to the CD-ROM:

Signed Holger Fischer