Program „Culture 2000“ of the European Commission

Project “ Multimedia History of Hungary and Finland on CD-ROM”

Meeting on the 06./07.04.2001 in the Institut für Finnougristik/Uralistik der Universität Hamburg

Participants:

Universität Hamburg: Dr. Holger Fischer

Universität  Rostock: Prof. Dr. Gyula Pápay

Jyväskylän Yliopisto: Prof. Dr. Anssi Halmesvirta, Ilkka Kuukka, Prof. Dr. Heikki Rantatupa

Eötvös Loránd Tudományegyetem Budapest: Dr. László Zentai

Collegium Hungaricum - Haus Ungarn Berlin: Prof. Dr. András Masát

The following persons were not able to attend this meeting:

Centre Interuniversitaire d’Etudes Hongroises de l’Université de la Sorbonne Nouvelle: Prof. Dr. Xavier Richet, Dr. Paul Gradvohl

1. Opening

Mr. Fischer welcomes the members of the project “ Multimedia History of  Hungary and Finland” present and thanks them for the readiness to accept such a short-term invitation. He excused the two French colleagues who were not able to participate. Afterwards the present ones introduced themselves briefly.

2. Basic organizational-financial conditions

(a) First Mr. Fischer describes the proceeding of the request procedure in May last year as well as the long lasting process of handling it in the European Commission.

This process has ended only now with the appropriation of means, practically half a year after the official start of the project in october 2000. This delay of half a year, however, does not automatically lead to a modification of the planned duration (01.10.2000-30.09.2001); a telephone call with the responsible consultant in Bruxelles could only achieve a prolongation of the project for another three months, until the 31.12.2001. This means that there are nine months left to carry out the project, in particular the EU-means have to be spent up to then.

(b) Next Mr. Fischer described the basic financial conditions. The total costs of the project amount to 318.197 €, for this the EU gives a subsidy of max. 150.000 € or 55,93 %. There is a direct correlation between the total costs and the subsidy in the way that – while with an increase of the total costs the subsidy remains the same - a reduction ot the total costs will lead to a reduction of the subsidy. This correlation must be considered under all circumstances.


( c ) the costs and the subsidy can be distributed among the different categories as follows:

category                                                                     costs in €           subsidies in €

1.staff

staff for scientific, technical and                         159.067                      74.667

multimedia assistance                                           42.240                       15.963

student assistants                                                          7.040                3.520

office, clerical work

                                                total staff:                208.347

2. overheads

office supplies, copies                                                     2.000                  ----

telephone, postage                                                              2.000                  ----

                                                total overheads:         4.000                  ----

3. travelling                                                   

travelling expenses                                                            8.800                  8.800

expenses during stays                                            7.300                  7.300

                                                total travelling:            16.100                         16.100

4. production costs

production of the CD-ROM with handbook           3.750                   3.750

translation costs                                                     17.500                          17.500

dispatch of the CD-ROM                                             500                         500

                                                total production:       21.750                          21.750

5. various costs

copyrights                                                                        8.000                    8.000

production of maps                                                      10.000                           10.000

                                                total various:                          18.000                           18.000

6. various contributions                                               

supply of hard- and software                                      30.000                              ---

supply of multimedia elements                                       6.000                   ---

supply of maps                                                       14.000                              ---

total various contributions:                  50.000                               ---

total of all costs:                                                     318.197                        150.000

(d) The different categories of expenses will be described as far as possible. There is agreement that in the category “staff” not some few persons should be employed during the entire period - like one employee with all additional social security contributions - but instead one should delegate a multiplicity of smaller and clearly defined jobs in the form of work contracts to a larger number of persons. The work contracts will be signed with the Universität Hamburg. An appropriate form in German and English will be prepared and sent to everyone by Mr. Fischer. All project members involved are asked to indicate as fast as possible which demand they will probably have for such work contracts.

Mr. Fischer will still strive to clarify the following questions with the administration of the Universität Hamburg:

-         To which extent may means be shifted from one category to another?

-         May devices ( PC, peripherals for example) be purchased from the means?

-         How high are the overheads which the Universität Hamburg keeps of the total amount ?

3. Basic concepts of the multimedia organization

In the discussion several  things are discussed in detail and are accepted by all unanimously.

-         Between basic technical concept and organization regarding the content exists a close mutual connection;

-         the basic technical concept has to be defined as fast as possible;

-         the close time schedule doesn´t permit any technical experiments;

-         no programs may be used which go out of date fast, but only programs which will be proceeded;

-         all programs have specific advantages and disadvantages;

-         in principle exist at least three versions for the basic multimedia concept: representation with acrobat (texts in pdf-format); representation in html-format; representation with PowerPoint , mixture of acrobat (for texts) and PowerPoint (pictures and so on).

 

After looking at some examples (series Enciklopédia Humana of the Hungarian history, Magyar kodex vol. 1, Hungarian revolution 1956, Suomen karttakuva) and some more discussion, the following decisions are taken:

-         The representation has to be pageorientated;

-         Mr. Pápay, Mr. Zentai and Mr. Kuukka will prepare a conception together as soon as possible and they will present it at the next conference

4. Aspects regarding the content

At first in the discussion the opinion is taken, that with regard to the relatively small connections of the Hungarian and Finnish history as well as because of the limited storage capacity of a CD-ROM and the adequacy of the representation connected with it, it might be better to deal with the history of Hungary and the history of Finland on two separated CD-ROMs and not together on only one CD-ROM. A certain kind of connection could be made in a DVD-version or an Internet version. The CD-ROMs could also include direct links to the Internet version. However, such a primarily technically caused separate representation is regretted by all colleagues.

As an example for the arrangement design, Mr. Fischer presents a possible structure for the treatment of the Hungarian history, which is then discussed. In the course of the discussion an alternative arrangement design is presented by Mr. Halmesvirta, who tries to save the idea of a common representation of the history of Finland and Hungary. At first, this outline is met with opposition, because even concerning the headings of chapters it goes for emphasizing the common developments while consciously neglecting specific developments. Several participants fear that such a presentation couldn’t fully represent the complex character especially of the Hungarian history and of the usual periodisation. After an intense discussion of the controverse items a concept which can be accepted by all the participants is developed.

Final structure representing the periodisation and the predominant subjects:

1.            Hungarian and finnish prehistory and early history
            Period for Hungary: until 955, for Finland: until 1144

  1. Christianization and the middle ages
    Period for Hungary: until around 1300, for Finland: until the middle of the 15th century
    Predominant subjects: King Stephen the Saint, Erik the Saint
  1. Renaissance
    Period for Hungary: from Karl Robert v. Anjou up to 1526, for Finland: until around 1560
    Predominant subjects: King Mátyás, swedish-finnisch renaissance

4.            Hungary and Finland in the modern times as part of Great Powers
            Period for Hungary: 1526-1686, for Finland: ?

  1. Hungary and Finland in the age of enlightened absolutism
    Period: 18th century
  2. Nationbuilding in the shadow of the Great Powers (the long 19th century)
    Chapter 6a: Period: 1790-1848/49
    Chapter 6b: Period: 1849-1918
  3. Horthy – Mannerheim and the interwar period
    Period: 1918-1945
  4. Kádár – Kekkonen
    Period: 1945-1989
    Predominant subject: Hungary/Finland and the Soviet Union
  5. Back to Europe. Hungary/Finland and the EU
    Period: after 1989

Basic concept, obligatory for all chapters, exemplified by Chapter 2: Christianization and the middle ages:

2. Christianization and the middle ages

2.1  Comparative introduction with the three elements
- Chronology Hungary/Finland
- Basic map Hungary/Finland
- Comparative presentation of the essential common and diverging developments

2.2  Presentation of the Hungarian history
- Depiction of the predominant subject
- Treatment of other essential developments in form of a survey

2.3  Presentation of the Finnish history
- Depiction of the predominant subject
- Treatment of other essential developments in form of a survey

From a thematic point of view the presentation should concentrate on the main domains, the predominant subjects. This means that one should not try to treat all the possible domains of historical analysis (politics, economy, society, culture etc.) to the same extent.

From a technical point of view the data has to be equally distributed on both CD-ROMs. One CD-ROM should contain chapter 1-6, the second one chapter 7-9.

In addition to the textual presentation, the authors should also supply multimedia material (images, maps, film clips, caricatures etc.) from various sources. The possibility to present complicated states of affairs in the form of graphics is also pointed out.

5. Recruitment of assistants

As mentioned above the participants unanimously think that it makes no sense to employ some few persons for the entire period - like one employee with all additional social insurance contributions – but instead it would be wiser to delegate a multitude of smaller and clearly defined tasks in form of Werkverträge (contracts not for a certain number of hours but for completing a certain task) for a greater number of persons. These Werkverträge will be signed with the Universität Hamburg. Mr. Fischer will prepare a form in English and German and send it to everyone.

All co-workers of the project are asked to contact Mr. Fischer as soon as possible (up to the end of april) and tell him, how many of such contracts they will probably need.

6. Other organisational steps

(a)  Until the middle of may Mr. Pápay, Mr. Kuukka and Mr. Zentai will develop a proposition for the basic multimedia concept.

(b)  Based on this concept, one chapter will be completed as a sample. The chapter 8 (History 1945 to 1956) is chosen for this sample. The text and propositions for multimedia elements will be completed by Mr. Fischer and Mr. Halmesvirta until the middle of may and passed on to Mr. Pápay. He will complete the sample until the middle of june.

(c)   The next meeting of all co-workers will take place in Jyväskylä on 15./16./17.06.2001. There, the sample will be discussed and a final decision on the concept will be taken.

Signed Holger Fischer